WEEKEND OPEN FORUM

Here's the weekend's open forum. Be civil and enjoy.

Comments

[mgcwrkr]

Hey Robert, I enjoyed your article about the carpet-bagging in AB. Do you plan on writting about the current carpet-bagging going on in MB?

[Robert Morris]

MG - thanks, but what exactly are you referring to?

[Paul Curry]

Now Robert, I'm disappointed. I expected you to work into your editorial the expressions "bread and circuses," and "hoisted on one's own petard:"

"Bread and circuses" (or bread and games) (from Latin: panem et circenses) is a metaphor for handouts and petty amusements that politicians use to gain popular support, instead of gaining it through sound policy. The phrase is invoked not only to criticize politicians, but also to criticize their supporters for giving up their civic duty.

In modern usage, the phrase has become an adjective to deride an infantalized populace so defined by entertainment, instant self gratification, and personal pleasures that they no longer value civic virtues and the public life (not necessarily accomplished through deliberate pacification by politicians but through the popular culture itself). To many social conservatives, it connotes the wanton decadence and hedonism that defined Rome prior to its decline and that may similarly contribute to the decline of modern society.

"hoisted on one's own petard."

Fig. to be harmed or disadvantaged by an action of one's own which was meant to harm someone else. (From a line in Shakespeare's Hamlet.) She intended to murder her brother but was hoist with her own petard when she ate the poisoned food intended for him. The vandals were hoist with their own petard when they tried to make an emergency call from the pay phone they had broken.

A petard was a small bomb used to blow up gates and walls when breaching fortifications. The term has a French origin and dates back to the sixteenth century.[1] In a typical implementation, it was commonly either a conical or rectangular metal object containing 5 or 6 pounds of gunpowder, activated with a slow match used as a fuse.

The word remains in modern usage in the phrase hoist with one's own petard, which means "to be harmed by one's own plan to harm someone else" or "to fall into one's own trap", literally implying that one could be lifted up (hoist, or blown upward) by one's own bomb.

Definitions from Wikepedia.

[Richard L. Wolfe]

" Here I come to save the day! That means that Mighty Mouse is on the way! " LOL.

Sunny I didn't read your e-mail until this morning. A full explanation is on the way. Patrick is not to be debated. Patrick is to be enjoyed for his unique style and at his best when he is allowed to free style. Robert is doing a great job and I applaud his efforts to bring the blog to prime time. Prime time has rules and parameters. We should all should assist him in his thankless job. My best days to try and present something worth reading are Monday and Tuesday however, saving the world is a full time job.

I just back from what use to be Myrtle Beach. I have decided to be kind.
Myrtle Beach 2009, reminds me of the butterfly that tried to climb back into the catapiller. Joe has it right! It reminded me of that old rock in roll song, " kicks just keep getting harder to find. " ( Patrick will provide the author and lyrics later. lol ) I think I passed my bff's Prefab house because there were about a hundred Rhodes signs in the yard.

Anyway, it is great to get back because all that sanity I was experiencing was starting to get on my nerves.

[prefab sprout]

I actually only have one Rhodes sign.

I was glad to see the editorial today re: AB. Lets hope that this latest travesty of the electoral process gets the interest of Hembree. Its apparent that indicting Armstrong and Conner was not enough of a signal to the crooks in AB to get their act together.

[Joe]

Richard,
Sorry you missed the Polka Band on your trip to MB. It certainly would have lit up your vacation. Let us know next time you visit so we can set up a shuffleboard tournament or bob for some apples.

[mgcwrkr]

MB carpet-bagging (i.e. MB mayoral candidate claims residency by renting a hotel room in the city he wants to be the mayor of while his wife and children reside in a different town)

[The Great Patrick]

Monkees | Kicks lyricsDon't it seem like, kicks just keep getting harder to find, All your kicks ain't bringing you peace of mind, Before you find out it's too late, ...
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[Tom Davis]

Monkees | Kicks lyricsDon't it seem like, kicks just keep getting harder to find, All your kicks ain't bringing you peace of mind, Before you find out it's too late, ...
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Posted by: The Great Patrick | November 07, 2009 at 11:43 PM
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Sorry, 'Great Patrick' - that's wrong. "Kicks just keep gettin' harder to find ... " was written by the legendary duo of Mann/Weil and originally recorded in 1966 by Paul Revere & the Raiders.

It WAS later 'covered' by the Monkees (and several others) - but the 'popular' version played most-often is the original version. It was a '66 BMI 'award-winner' selling in excess of 2-million copies.

That's sorta' sloppy research - but a little unfair, too; I'm 'just' old enough to remember that tune and I knew Davy Jones didn't make that song a hit.

[The Great Patrick]

The ONLY concert I've ever been to was Paul Revere and the Raiders opening for Seals & Crofts at Six Flags.

I don't mind telling you that you are probably correct, but i will (listen Richard) debate you w/o rules if i think you are wrong.

I founded a debate club once, though.

[Tom Davis]

Talking to yourself isn't a debate, Patrick. It'sa illness. I hope you get well.

[Patrick]

"It'sa" certainly is an illness.

[Tom Davis]

Sort of like typing 'ralking' instead of 'talking', but it appears you get it. The correct transitive word is 'an' ... AND I do hope you find A 'cure'.

[Patrick]

You got me laughing after I was almost crying thinking about momma (paper towel on the desk). Thanks.
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Amd I am sure, I am glad for Robert and his deletion of that comment. Spoke 30 minutes tonight. He is a better psychologist than that Fort Hood guy. Pretty mature and intelligent.

[KaCee]

Ben Franklin's take on yesterday's House vote on health reform...

"All human situations have their inconveniences. We feel those of the present but neither see nor feel those of the future; and hence we often make troublesome changes without amendment, and frequently for the worse."

'Nuff said.

[Tom Davis]

"I'm try'n to find any numbers on unemployment here (cricket noises). It's cool."

According to the MBACC, the Brittain Center for Tourism (You can get a BS there. You can get a lot of BS), Mayor Rhodes and the Rhodettes, and the local media: Bidness is a'boomin here at da beach! Not to worry about unemployment figures, low wages, lack of benefits, or any of those other socioeconomic indicators dreamed up the left wing, pinko , commie national media. We is gooooood!!!!

Posted by: Joe | November 08, 2009 at 07:52 AM

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Joe: Perhaps you can convince Clyburn/Spratt to 'define' another territorial disaster-area akin to the Katrina-relief section (where tens of thousands of displaced citizens are still receiving 'special relief' payments/housing/food allowances) sort of like payments to Guam and other protected locales.

This 'biker' thing that's gotten so much ink WASN'T AROUND before the early 90's ... May's big event was always the "Sun Fun Festival" (a 'family thing' with a beauty padgent and few bikini's thrown in) ... I'm not saying a few rider's haven't been coming for years, what I'm saying is they didn't come to Myrtle Beach in droves before then (I finished MBHS in '68 and motorcycles were rarely seen here in the 60's, 70's, 80's and early 90's) ... that whole 'event' was a start-up marketing thing that grew into the 'previous event' it became before it got out of hand and ... well, you know the rest of the story.

"Biker's in May" didn't drive MBch's growth in the 90's and the early part of this decade, the aging of America and greatest transfer of wealth in our history as baby-boomers came of age did. They bought condo's, speculated on real estate, began retiring here, 'half-backs' from Florida, sick of the influx of immigrants began discovering us ... it wasn't 'biker's'.

Bars and such aren't the 'life-blood' of Myrtle Beach. The 'future' of Horry/Georgetown County brightened considerably with the Boeing announcement in North Charleston. Nah, we won't get the 'plant workers' but we will get a considerable share of the support industry companies supplying Boeing; especially with more and more work moving on-line.

You need to take a little cheese with your 'whine' ... "Joe's free-cheese!" ... you can still get it in 5-pound blocks out 'da back of the food-trailer. The City of Myrtle Beach will move on, Horry County (and Georgetown County) will grow, jobs will be created ... albeit they'll probably require 'some skills' - so I don't know where that'll leave you.

But hollering again and again "I'm a world-class swimmer! - build me a pool!" in the middle of a desert isn't a very good business-model.

You need to learn sand-sculpture, quit trying to change your surroundings and begin adaping your behaviour.

Just a suggestion.

[KaCee]

Throw in 50+ (at the time) golf courses + a climate from Paradise and I believe he has you Joe.

[Joe]

LIke I said, Bidness is a'boomin!!

[Joe]

Sand sculpture? I'm workin on salsa dancing. Got the horizontal one down. Vary Nice!! Still working on the vertical. The "free cheese" is wonderful here!!!

[Patrick]

I would like to thank Jim, Joe, Phillip, Paul, The USPS, that beachwear store, Tom, uhhh Jim, and that rude guy, Dallas Cowboys, Richard, the Monkeys, the person that threw the red flag at my mailbox by the road, mom, NE Patriots that beat Miami, and Jimmie Johnson even though he didn't win, and Robert and Willie Ames for a great weekend. Hope I didn't leave anyone out ya'll. Oh yea, Mr. Novak at the Heritage in Pawleys Island and Bess at Electronics Etc. in P.I. Hope all had a great weekend!

[Tom Davis]

Wow, you must REALLY be having fun, Jose' ... 'dat Miami Beach, so much to do!

So much you posted here around 8, then again around 9, then again around 1 then again around 4 - but maybe it's raining and they've eliminated you pretty early at the 'dance competition'? Huh?

Odd, the weatherman said it's 'sunny'.

But hey, I KNOW that when I'm traveling I just can't wait to check the MBSNOB either ... not even those South Beach 'Bootie Pants' on Lincoln Road could distract me!

Perhaps you and I need tour guides ... was the 'early-bird' at Wolfie's Deli to your liking? You just keep on rocking, Joe - it's apparent you're having a tough time getting it all in!

[Patrick]

Obama said the MPs at Fort Hood acted "stupidly" and that he would travel down to Texas and share a beer with the assasin and the woman that shot him.

He wants us all to not be so arrogant with the muslim world, given that we don't "consider ourselves a christian nation. He is gonna get them to shake hands.

[Patrick]

Hey smarty pants!

What is your fav. song by Sonny James.

Young Love?

[Patrick]

I think Obama thinks that (listen Richard) when the lyrics to the Star-Spangled Banner mentions "or'e the ramparts we watched" that he is on a reviewing stand near a fire station in Los Angelas.

TV show - Emergency!

[Patrick]

Oh yea, comments about Obama bringing that Hassan dude to another beer summit are open for 15 minutes.

Paul, you can cover that story, but stop begging for all the good ones. Sometimes you need to cover your mouth or stories like the NEW off-road experience on the blvd which is a free ride.

Next: Free lunches. Stay tuned.